[Classweb-users] Table HV8157/2

[Philip Lincoln]

Dear Classweb Users,

To save confusion for shelflisters these two lines of the Table should read
.A5A-Z By region or state, A-Z
.A6A-Z By city, A-Z
then there wouldn't be two Cutters for one and one Cutter for the other.

However it is a minor matter and we'll just live with it.

Cheers,
Philip.
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Philip J. S. Lincoln
Librarian, Bibliographic Access
Macquarie University Library
Balaclava Road                                  P: (02) 98507530
NORTH RYDE NSW 2109                 F: (02) 98506516
email: Philip.Lincoln at mq.edu.au
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul G Weiss" <pwei at loc.gov>
To: <plincoln at mars.ocs.mq.edu.au>; <classweb-users at sun8.loc.gov>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Classweb-users] Table HV8157/2


> If you're suggesting that the arrangement should be:
>
> .A5-Z By region or state, A-Z
> .A6-Z By city, A-Z
>
> that clearly would not work, since the two ranges of numbers would overlap
and conflict with each other, and the material dealing with regions or
states would be mixed together with the material dealing with cities.  The
extra .A5 Cutter is needed in order to segregate the region or state
material from the city material.
>
> If that's not what you're suggesting, then I'm sorry but I don't
understand your question and will have to ask you to explain it more
clearly.
>
> Paul Weiss
> Cataloging Policy and Support Office
> Library of Congress
>
> >>> "Philip Lincoln" <plincoln at mars.ocs.mq.edu.au> 03/02/06 5:30 PM >>>
> Dear Classweb Users,
>
> My apologies that I didn't frame my query clearly.
> I have no problem with the HV8157/2 Table having both a division 'By
region
> or state, A-Z' and a 'By city, A-Z'. Of course this is a long-standing
> design. My query was really directed at the business of having two Cutter
> numbers when dealing with 'By region or state' and the main entry
> represented by only an extra digit, whereas with 'By city' the first
cutter
> goes straight to the 'city' and the main entry gets a *whole* Cutter
number.
> This creates some amount of confusion amongst our shelflisters. They
always
> have to come back to the cataloguer to check, on account of there being
> nowhere to store such information for them in a fully-automated library
> system, as we were able to do with the card shelflist.
>
> Cheers,
> Philip.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul G Weiss" <pwei at loc.gov>
> To: <plincoln at mars.ocs.mq.edu.au>; <classweb-users at sun8.loc.gov>
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Classweb-users] Table HV8157/2
>
>
> > This provision for separate local breakdowns at the state or regional
> level and at the city level goes back as far as the 1950 edition of Class
H.
> If the Dersham version does not provide the two breakdowns, it does not
> reflect Library of Congress practice.
> >
> > Paul Weiss
> > Cataloging Policy and Support Office
> > Library of Congress
> >
> > >>> "Philip Lincoln" <plincoln at mars.ocs.mq.edu.au> 03/01/06 9:52 PM >>>
> > Dear Classweb Users,
> >
> > Just wondering why it is necessary in Table HV8157/2 (for 1 number
> countries) under Local / By region or state, A-Z to have .A5A-.A5Z *but*
By
> city, A-Z is simply .A6-.Z? The Dershem printed version of the schedule
has
> .A5-.Z adjacent to "Local" whereas Classweb does not. I believe there is
no
> need for the separate .A5 cutter number, .A5-.Z is sufficient.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Philip.
>
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> > Philip J. S. Lincoln
> > Librarian, Bibliographic Access
> > Macquarie University Library
> > Balaclava Road                                  P: (02) 98507530
> > NORTH RYDE NSW 2109                 F: (02) 98506516
> > email: Philip.Lincoln at mq.edu.au
>
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