From mvargas at chmotorcars.com Wed Feb 1 10:28:45 2017 From: mvargas at chmotorcars.com (Mark Vargas) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 10:28:45 -0500 Subject: [Classweb-users] Question on TL215 Message-ID: Greetings, I direct the library at a large automotive museum, and have a question about the TL215A-Z classification. The existing table lists 215.B84 for Buick, 215.C5 for Chevrolet, and 215.C6 for Corvette. I am trying to understand the consistency. Buick and Chevrolet are divisions of General Motors (215.G4), and the Corvette is a model of the Chevrolet marque. I recognize that if a title is about GM its a TL215.G4. But I don't see consistency in the classification for marques and models. In other words, in some cases the tables list the marque (whether the division or overall company), in other cases, the model. For example, why are some books on the Chevy Corvette classified as Chevy, others as Corvette? We have found that in most cases, books tend to use the classification for marques, but not always. This isn't very helpful when I have endless books on Ferraris or Renaults and their quite large numbers of models. What I am trying to do is understand the principle we should follow for classifying many specialized automotive titles. (Our foreign holdings are quite extensive too.) For example, would books on the Jaguar XKSS be TL215.J34 or under TL215.X57? Or, because there are so many models for each marque, would it be acceptable to use TL215.J34.X57, using a second cutter for the model? To make it more complex, there are many books on submodels for each model (i.e., different kinds of Jaguar XKSS) and our patrons seem to know every one of them! Your time and consideration in this matter is most welcome and appreciated. Thank you, Mark -- Mark A. Vargas Director of the Library and Archives CH Motorcars, LLC The Revs Institute? 2500 S. 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Message-ID: Hello ClassWeb folks, Quick question -- Is this the correct medium/forum by which to ask questions about the way ClassWeb displays data and/or note oddities in that display? in solidarity, Netanel Ganin ------------------------------------------------------------ Metadata Coordinator -- Hebrew Specialty Brandeis University (781) 736-4645 / nganin at brandeis.edu My pronouns are he/him/his From rtamares at law.stanford.edu Wed Feb 15 11:58:04 2017 From: rtamares at law.stanford.edu (Ryan Tamares) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:58:04 -0800 Subject: [Classweb-users] LCCN 2016497388: HV6433.F7 v. HV6433.F8 Message-ID: Hello: This title at the above-mentioned LCCN, *Bombs, bullets, and politicians*, has HV6433.F7 assigned. However, CSM G300 gives F8 for France, and F7 is unassigned. Has the table changed over time? Thank you, Ryan Tamares ********************************************************** Ryan Tamares Head of Collection Services Robert Crown Library -- Stanford Law School Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-8612 rtamares at law.stanford.edu (650) 724-6454 From Karen.Jensen at concordia.ca Wed Feb 15 17:43:51 2017 From: Karen.Jensen at concordia.ca (Karen Jensen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:43:51 +0000 Subject: [Classweb-users] LCCN 2016497388: HV6433.F7 v. HV6433.F8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D69A470-9864-4C36-83D7-D11711CF3C21@concordia.ca> Hi Ryan, If you browse the LC Catalog by call no., you see that F7 is used. I recall instructions for CSM G300 used to say follow the table unless another cutter had already been used in the LC shelflist. Sometimes cutters were in use before the table was created. I don't think it changed. Regards, Karen Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 15, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Ryan Tamares wrote: > > Hello: > > This title at the above-mentioned LCCN, *Bombs, bullets, and politicians*, > has HV6433.F7 assigned. However, CSM G300 gives F8 for France, and F7 is > unassigned. > > Has the table changed over time? > > Thank you, > > Ryan Tamares > > > ********************************************************** > Ryan Tamares > Head of Collection Services > Robert Crown Library -- Stanford Law School > Stanford University > Stanford, CA 94305-8612 > rtamares at law.stanford.edu > (650) 724-6454 > _______________________________________________ > Classweb-users mailing list > Classweb-users at classificationweb.net > https://classificationweb.net/mailman/listinfo/classweb-users From hm2106 at columbia.edu Wed Feb 15 20:44:16 2017 From: hm2106 at columbia.edu (Hideyuki Morimoto) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:44:16 -0500 Subject: [Classweb-users] LCCN 2016497388: HV6433.F7 v. HV6433.F8 In-Reply-To: <7D69A470-9864-4C36-83D7-D11711CF3C21@concordia.ca> References: <7D69A470-9864-4C36-83D7-D11711CF3C21@concordia.ca> Message-ID: Also, the particular provision is still found at *CSM*, G 300. *CSM*, G 300 1. Existing Cutters. If a Cutter for a region or country has been used in the shelflist or established in the classification schedule, use that number even if it is in conflict with the number in the regions and countries table. =========================================================== Hideyuki Morimoto Japanese Cataloger C.V. Starr East Asian Library 300 Kent Hall, mail code 3901 Columbia University Voice: +1-212-854-1510 1140 Amsterdam Ave. Fax: +1-212-662-6286 New York, NY 10027-7034 U.S.A. Electronic Mail: hm2106 at columbia.edu =========================================================== On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Karen Jensen wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > If you browse the LC Catalog by call no., you see that F7 is used. > > I recall instructions for CSM G300 used to say follow the table unless > another cutter had already been used in the LC shelflist. Sometimes cutters > were in use before the table was created. I don't think it changed. > Regards, Karen > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 15, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Ryan Tamares > wrote: > > > > Hello: > > > > This title at the above-mentioned LCCN, *Bombs, bullets, and > politicians*, > > has HV6433.F7 assigned. However, CSM G300 gives F8 for France, and F7 is > > unassigned. > > > > Has the table changed over time? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Ryan Tamares > > > > > > ********************************************************** > > Ryan Tamares > > Head of Collection Services > > Robert Crown Library -- Stanford Law School > > Stanford University > > Stanford, CA 94305-8612 > > rtamares at law.stanford.edu > > (650) 724-6454 > From rtamares at law.stanford.edu Wed Feb 22 12:01:44 2017 From: rtamares at law.stanford.edu (Ryan Tamares) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:01:44 -0800 Subject: [Classweb-users] LCCN 2016497388: HV6433.F7 v. HV6433.F8 Message-ID: Thanks to Hideyuki and Karen with the reminders about existing cutter numbers. Ryan ********************************************************** Ryan Tamares Head of Collection Services Robert Crown Library -- Stanford Law School Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-8612 rtamares at law.stanford.edu (650) 724-6454 On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Hideyuki Morimoto wrote: > Also, the particular provision is still found at *CSM*, G 300. > > *CSM*, G 300 > > 1. Existing Cutters. If a Cutter for a region or country has been used in > the shelflist or established in the classification schedule, use that > number even if it is in conflict with the number in the regions and > countries table. > > > =========================================================== > Hideyuki Morimoto > Japanese Cataloger > C.V. Starr East Asian Library > 300 Kent Hall, mail code 3901 > Columbia University Voice: +1-212-854-1510 > 1140 Amsterdam Ave. Fax: +1-212-662-6286 > New York, NY 10027-7034 > U.S.A. Electronic Mail: hm2106 at columbia.edu > =========================================================== > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Karen Jensen > wrote: > > > Hi Ryan, > > > > If you browse the LC Catalog by call no., you see that F7 is used. > > > > I recall instructions for CSM G300 used to say follow the table unless > > another cutter had already been used in the LC shelflist. Sometimes > cutters > > were in use before the table was created. I don't think it changed. > > Regards, Karen > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Feb 15, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Ryan Tamares > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello: > > > > > > This title at the above-mentioned LCCN, *Bombs, bullets, and > > politicians*, > > > has HV6433.F7 assigned. However, CSM G300 gives F8 for France, and F7 > is > > > unassigned. > > > > > > Has the table changed over time? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Ryan Tamares > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************** > > > Ryan Tamares > > > Head of Collection Services > > > Robert Crown Library -- Stanford Law School > > > Stanford University > > > Stanford, CA 94305-8612 > > > rtamares at law.stanford.edu > > > (650) 724-6454 > > > _______________________________________________ > Classweb-users mailing list > Classweb-users at classificationweb.net > https://classificationweb.net/mailman/listinfo/classweb-users > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Karen Jensen wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > If you browse the LC Catalog by call no., you see that F7 is used. > > I recall instructions for CSM G300 used to say follow the table unless > another cutter had already been used in the LC shelflist. Sometimes cutters > were in use before the table was created. I don't think it changed. > Regards, Karen > > Sent from my iPhone >